Rachel Eliza Griffiths is a poet, novelist and visible artist.
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When poet Rachel Eliza Griffiths married author Salman Rushdie in 2021, she anticipated the day to be joyful. Their family and friends had gathered and Griffiths’ greatest good friend, poet Kamilah Aisha Moon, was set to talk.
However Moon by no means confirmed up. Griffiths was nonetheless in her wedding ceremony costume when she discovered that her good friend had died. She says Moon’s dying put her in a dissociative state; it was as if she had been standing exterior her personal physique.
“There was a second actually the place I felt I used to be trying down at this girl who was this attractive bride and the agony and anguish in her physique,” Griffiths says. “She was screaming, individuals had been holding her down so she would not harm herself. After which I simply left.”
Even now, Griffiths says, “Many components of my wedding ceremony day are blacked out in my reminiscence and usually are not accessible to me. … It’s extremely exhausting for me even to have a look at images or something from my wedding ceremony day and really feel related to it.”

Eleven months after their wedding ceremony, Griffiths was residence in New York Metropolis when she discovered that Rushdie had been stabbed onstage on the Chautauqua Establishment whereas being interviewed at a literary occasion. As she was speeding to be with him, Griffiths fell down a flight of stairs. It was a clarifying second.
“After I bought up and realized I hadn’t damaged my neck or damaged a bone, I simply actually was like, ‘That is the final time you fall down. You can’t danger your security. You can’t be operating round together with your head off your shoulders. It’s essential focus now,'” she says.
Within the new memoir The Flower Bearers, Griffiths appears again on her wedding ceremony day and her marriage, and writes about her expertise with dissociative id dysfunction. She additionally displays on her friendship with Moon, and the way they initially related over their shared id as Black feminine poets.
Interview highlights
On caring for Rushdie within the quick aftermath of the assault
I did not cry within the hospital room as a result of I simply did not suppose that will be useful. And actually, I did not have the power. I needed to preserve power for all of those completely different balls that had been all within the air. And once you’ve simply married somebody and now you are answerable for their survival … you do not actually have time to tally up how sturdy you might be, how courageous you might be, how brave you might be you must maintain going. And I used to be in survivor mode. …
There have been moments the place I cried in plenty of corners and stairwells. And yeah, I threw up so much. I used to be actually sick. My complete physique was in shock. … I do not know the best way to clarify it, I do not know if it is innate or discovered, however when there’s a lot strain and issues are type of going to hell, I’ll focus and bear down.
On the power of her marriage
It is exhausting to look at the love of your life battle with blindness, with impaired mobility, to really feel exhausted, however I am additionally attempting to essentially take a look at what’s there. The knife did not take away the thoughts within my husband. It has not taken away his curiosity. It hasn’t taken away how romantic he’s and the way he likes to plan date nights for us and watching motion pictures and touring and attempting to spend as a lot high quality time collectively as we will.

I feel this expertise makes you consider time. And I feel as a result of I’m married to somebody who is far older than me, there’s a sense of time, time passing, being current, and actually filling the time up with love. … There is a type of indescribable bridge and bond we’ve got having survived such an expertise that has strengthened probably the most wondrous and delightful and incandescent areas of this marriage and this friendship. This friendship is gorgeous. And I am grateful for it. And that offers me plenty of power and braveness to simply maintain going.
On experiencing dissociation
It is part of my thoughts and my physique that makes an attempt to guard and cope in moments the place I really feel flight or struggle and I am attempting to get away from one thing, usually externally. Or it may be a reminiscence that may trigger me a ache or a type of psychological assault that I will be unable to resist. … I’ve discovered to see my dissociative id dysfunction as a protector. I’ve befriended it. I’ve discovered a lot about it in order that I do not really feel like I am uncontrolled or I do not know what’s occurring.
On her alter egos
One of many issues I write about is how, if you happen to image possibly the identical model of your self in a automobile, there are completely different individuals driving it at completely different occasions, however you are all in the identical automobile. … My alter as an artist is related to my alter who was a younger little one and my alter who in my 20s as a younger girl struggling to be an artist and turning into the individual I am nonetheless turning into. That is a unique set of recollections and a unique type of character. However all of them type of go to me. I’ve a future alter, who’s a extremely pretty, type of daring, dazzling older girl. And her identify is June. And so she helps me not sweat the small stuff. And she or he has plenty of humor and magnificence and is stylish. And she or he takes care of me.
On pushing again towards the cliché of the “tortured” artist
Once you glamorize tortured poets or tortured artists, there’s an injustice that they turn into silhouettes and cutouts, their humanity is faraway from them. They don’t seem to be seen as three-dimensional. … You realize, Virginia Woolf, Sylvia Plath, and even Amy Winehouse … [and] Whitney Houston. There’s so many names of individuals … [whose] ache turns into the engine that drives the ship. …
What has now occurred by scripting this ebook is I haven’t got disgrace. I do not really feel disgrace. I’m utilizing my voice to say that is my journey and I hope it could possibly assist another person. After I was youthful, having no cash, being broke, being defeated, being depressed, that did not lead me to jot down my greatest work. I used to be in survivor mode. As soon as I used to be in a position to get stabilized and begin to do the interior work and begin to heal, I am going to all the time be therapeutic, you realize? I will be therapeutic. However this looks like one of many first steps for me in a brand new life. And I am actually grateful for that.
Anna Bauman and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Beth Novey tailored it for the online.

